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Did Obama just get himself impeached?

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by simmsjs , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 03/22/2011 08:21 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

simmsjs

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Congress is pretty upset that Obama didn't come to Congress for a vote to lead the US into another war. The left seems to be more upset than congressional members from the right. How ever you may look at how Bush led us into wars in Afganistan and Iraq, he did go on the vote of Congress where as Obama went on the OK of the UN and totally sidestepped the Constitution and our Congress. Going against the Constitution is an impeachable offence. Is this the start to the end of this Presidency?

IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Tim Sandstrom on 03/22/2011 08:29 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I doubt it. I would have to think Obama is a little smarter than that. I'm sure there is some sort of stipulation in events like this. But maybe not. I'm thinking he is safe though.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by simmsjs on 03/22/2011 08:35 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I am not sure I understand all of it, infact I am sure I don't but FOX was saying there was something on how Obama words it in conjunction with the UN which could save him but ultimately it would come down to how bad congress feels he violated the law and overstepped his boundries.

IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Captain Ahab on 03/22/2011 08:35 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Maybe he was out back having a smoke?

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."
Benjamin Franklin

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Tim Sandstrom on 03/22/2011 08:40 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I think there is a difference in actual declaration of war and what is going on in Libya. Although, I must say, I think it is rather odd we don't have more discussion on it at the congressional level but maybe if we are there for extended period of time then it has to go in front of congress? Not sure.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by simmsjs on 03/22/2011 08:49 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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So if Britian or the French decide not to take the leed on this thing, are we screwed? Of should I say, is HE screwed?

IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Tim Sandstrom on 03/22/2011 08:51 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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simmsjs Said:
So if Britian or the French decide not to take the leed on this thing, are we screwed? Of should I say, is HE screwed?

That's probably the questions being asked by his party and the opposition's party. I haven't followed any of this so I don't know. Just thinking freely...that can be dangerous. Ha ha.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Farnorth on 03/22/2011 08:57 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The President is the Commander in Chief. We have existing agreements with the UN to provide support for UN actions. I doubt if there is anyhting illegal or Unconstitutional about what was done.

The US didn't do anything. This is a United Nations action.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by dakota1977 on 03/22/2011 09:41 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Technically, according to the Constitution, what Bush/Congress did was not Constitutional either. It is the job of Congress to declare war. They never did any such thing in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Congress voted and illegally shifted the burden to the President of what to do. It is not the President's job to declare war. Essentially, what the Congress did was "pass the buck" to the President. They did something that in reality should only be done by Constitutional amendment... they left the decision of whether to declare war to the Executive Branch of government.

Ron Paul actually tried to get Congress to make an official declaration of war (which he would have voted against) if they were going to go to war in Iraq, but they DID NOT do so. Essentially, he did not agree with going to war himself, but if we were going to go to war he wanted it to be a Constitutional declaration. Unfortunately, not too many of the others in Congress care whether the Constitution is followed or not. No official declaration was made.

What Obama has done is essentially an act of war. If you think differently, then what would you consider it if some other country or countries declared a "no fly zone" and started patrolling our skies?

On another note, who gives a spit about the United Nations. If we had any sense as a country, we would demand that the U.S. get out of the U.N. and the U.N. out of the U.S. We should recognize the U.N. as having as much authority in the world as my grandmother does... ZERO.

-Justin

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by odocoileus on 03/22/2011 09:43 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The last time Congress declared war was World War II. It is definately unconstitutional for the President to completely bypass Congress even for acts such as the strikes on Libya, but "conveniently" after the Patriot Act the President cant pretty much do as he pleases, as long as it involves "terrorism" And yes we do have sanctions with the UN but why are we the ones to always take the lead??

I believe our involvement in WWI and WWII were legit and were justified by congress. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Libya were not justified, and guess who got us into those wars...... the President. Might I mention that the war in Afgahanistan has lasted longer than any other American war!!

The President is Commander In Chief but according to the Constitution, war must be declared by Congress. But im sure you are right, there are always loopholes. I just do not like the idea of our involvement in yet another country......... GOOD GRIEF

Bush did the same thing twice so Obama won't be impeached. However I'm real glad he is so concerned with March Madness during times of nuclear crisis and a new bleeping war. And I completely agree about the United Nations, what a joke.

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Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by mauserG33-40 on 03/22/2011 11:52 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Did Obama just get himself impeached?

We couldn't get that lucky!! In 2012 he will get run off for good.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Tim Sandstrom on 03/22/2011 12:01 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Amen on the U.N.

And as for Iraq and Afghanistan I think congress pretty much approved it because they voted for the funding. Kinda gotta be on board with it if they vote for funding right??

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by cynical on 03/22/2011 12:06 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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No way Obama gets impeached. That would be a historic vote meaning the first President of color to be impeached.

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Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Lycanthrope on 03/22/2011 12:14 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I thought he was just really tan....

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by Farnorth on 03/22/2011 12:43 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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There's plenty of room to argue either side of this. Apparently, the War Powers Act give the authority and is backed by a unanimous Senate Resolution from March 1.

Ultimately, I don't see any traction for impeachment but plenty of people are worked up about it. More lefties than righties.

Re: Did Obama just get himself impeached?

by NDSHOOTER on 03/22/2011 12:44 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:

Did Obama just get himself impeached?

We couldn't get that lucky!! In 2012 he will get run off for good.

The big problem is that if he goes then there's Joe B., then Hillary, then... LORD HELP US!!!

I carry a gun cuz cops are to heavy.

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