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Anybody hunt over a Boykin Spaniel before??

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by kdm , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 08/17/2011 8:33 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

kdm

Joined: 09/05/2008
Location: ND

I'm in the market for my first gundog and am really leaning toward the Boykin spaniel. Poochie will be in the house with the family so a smaller gundog is my preferred choice. I grew up hunting around golden retrievers and labs so I have a fair grasp on what it takes for training. I've hunted over some kickazz smaller gundogs before and that is what piqued my interest in smaller breeds. I need a gundog as my other dog, (See Photo) just doesn't quite have what it takes. Thanks.

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by pikemaster11 on 08/18/2011 07:53 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

pikemaster11
Joined: 03/23/2004
Location: ND

I did one time in SD for pheasants. That dog was crazy high energy, it ran harder and longer than any of the german shorthairs or labs that were out that day. Of course it was only one experience and the owner did not have it well trained (ran too far ahead) but it was pedal to the metal for that dog all day.

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by gdtrfb on 08/18/2011 08:26 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

gdtrfb
Joined: 07/07/2009
Location: nd

English cocker spaniel. Some of the top breeders in the US are right here in ND.

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by odocoileus on 08/18/2011 08:36 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

odocoileus
Joined: 12/30/2006
Location: ND

kdm are you planning on using your dog for just upland or waterfowl or both? If both you really cant beat a lab.

If u just plan on hunting upland with your dog, then spaniels are a really good choice, and German short haired pointers are great upland dogs as well!!

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by Tim Sandstrom on 08/18/2011 08:53 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Tim Sandstrom
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

I still believe the English springer is the best all around dog especially when you want smaller dog and pretty family safe. Also a dog that can handle cold weather. They love water and waterfowl not a problem. Only issue is handling constant heavy waterfowl in cattails and constant goose retrieves. I hunt fields and do not use a dog. Only time I find it necessary for a dog is duck retrieves from water. Stringers love that! Better than retrieving a stick! Or also helpful on locating cripples.

My only dislike is they have energy and run requiring a motivated hunter. Although I have hunted over shorthairs that do not hold points and that is worse than a springer since pointers often work well in front of a hunter. Can't just lolly gag around with a pointer either. Simply put a trained dog is a trained dog and an untrained dog is an untrained dog.

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by Sotaman on 08/18/2011 09:01 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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gdtrfb Said:
English cocker spaniel. Some of the top breeders in the US are right here in ND.

I can see the love for these dogs, I however have not been impressed with the one I got. He is kinda weird and always seems to be in need of something. I also dont think I have ever seen a dog as jeoulos as mine is. But take a gun out and my word he acts like his ass is on fire all day wide open and intense.

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by kdm on 08/18/2011 09:26 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

kdm
Joined: 09/05/2008
Location: ND

odocoileus Said:

kdm are you planning on using your dog for just upland or waterfowl or both? If both you really cant beat a lab.

I plan on hunting both waterfowl and upland, so a warm coat and retrieving ability are very important. Most of my pheasant hunting is done after deer hunting, which us usually in the snow. I plan on hunting heavy cover as well. I agree that a lab is one of the best, but they're bigger than I am looking for. I just may get one though as they are very versitile dogs, but for right now, I'm looking at smaller breeds.

I have time to run the dog so having a high energy breed is possible. The smaller dogs I have seen and had experience with were English Cockers and Springers. However, I haven't had any experience with these smaller breeds used for cold water waterfowling. I also realize that for most of the year the dog will be the family pet, so disposition is just as important as the hunting abilities. Thanks guys for all the information. There's nothing better than real life experiences.

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by Pheasant 54 on 08/18/2011 09:46 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Pheasant 54
Joined: 05/08/2007
Location: ND

Tim Sandstrom Said:
I still believe the English springer is the best all around dog especially when you want smaller dog and pretty family safe. Also a dog that can handle cold weather. They love water and waterfowl not a problem. Only issue is handling constant heavy waterfowl in cattails and constant goose retrieves. I hunt fields and do not use a dog. Only time I find it necessary for a dog is duck retrieves from water. Stringers love that! Better than retrieving a stick! Or also helpful on locating cripples.

My only dislike is they have energy and run requiring a motivated hunter. Although I have hunted over shorthairs that do not hold points and that is worse than a springer since pointers often work well in front of a hunter. Can't just lolly gag around with a pointer either. Simply put a trained dog is a trained dog and an untrained dog is an untrained dog.

You are dead on Tim , great hunting and family dogs

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by miller man on 08/18/2011 10:06 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

miller man
Joined: 04/09/2002
Location: ND

I've hunted over a couple. Great dogs and family pets. I wouldnt mind picking one up someday once my lab / yellow tornado gets a little older.

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by ringneckbuster on 08/18/2011 10:12 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

ringneckbuster
Joined: 03/11/2005
Location: ND

I've had a springer all my life, wouldn't go with any other breed. I have kids also and my springers have been great with kids, great house and family dogs. Also use mine for waterfowl hunting, they do get a little colder in the water in late season but have never had one quit. Get a neoprene vest to help with keeping them warm and you'll be all right. Love my springers.

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by kdm on 08/18/2011 10:47 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

kdm
Joined: 09/05/2008
Location: ND

I have only hunted over 2 springers and both of them felt they needed to "kill" the dead bird again. I don't like dog marks on my game. Is this a common trait for the breed??

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by Tim Sandstrom on 08/18/2011 10:53 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Tim Sandstrom
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

kdm Said:

I have only hunted over 2 springers and both of them felt they needed to "kill" the dead bird again. I don't like dog marks on my game. Is this a common trait for the breed??

All comes into training. Our female will like to dig teeth in but she's so darn competitive on the retrieve she feels like someone is going to snatch it. It is very poor training on our part...zero...and the fact people like to play with her on the retrieve of sticks, or whatever. Bad, bad, bad.

Our male in his prime (he hardly picks a bird up anymore...just lays on it) wouldn't chew it up.

I have seen all dogs destroy birds before if they are not tended (trained).

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by gdtrfb on 08/18/2011 11:09 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

gdtrfb
Joined: 07/07/2009
Location: nd

Tim is correct. It all comes down to training. Every hunting breed has dogs that are hardmouth. Spingers with hard mouth are no more or less common than labs with hard mouths.

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by Pheasant 54 on 08/18/2011 11:09 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Pheasant 54
Joined: 05/08/2007
Location: ND

It is just funny to watch our springer if you knock a rooster down in a field or pasture that has little cover and they take off running , he will literally hit them so hard the first time he goes head over heals when he rolls them . Then he goes back to make sure they dont make it back to cover . Is there a bite mark sometimes when this happens , you bet , but its worth it just to watch the dust fly

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by kdm on 08/18/2011 11:29 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

kdm
Joined: 09/05/2008
Location: ND

Well if it comes down to training, I will just have to smack the guy in the mirror. I'm not knocking any breed in particular, but I'm interested in not only the "Good" in a breed, but the "Bad" and the "Ugly". The last two pieces of information are the hardest to find. Thanks again for your knowledge and willingness to share information. I would like to contact breeders this fall and get a pup sometime in Jan-April so I can have a spring-summer to work with the dog. Thanks again!!

Great visual there Pheasant54. That one made me laugh!

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by Horsager on 08/18/2011 11:30 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Horsager
Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND

gdtrfb Said:
Tim is correct. It all comes down to training. Every hunting breed has dogs that are hardmouth. Spingers with hard mouth are no more or less common than labs with hard mouths.

Yep, my 11yr old English Cocker won't leave a mark on a bird unless he needs to hold them tight to keep them from getting away, like a winged rooster. Also if they claw at him he'll "crunch" them a little bit.

My 6yr old Cocker is a bit harder on birds. He's been the beta dog his whole life and I believe he does it to avoid having the bird taken from him by an alpha dog. I notice that he's much nicer to birds when I hunt him alone vs. pairing him with the older dog.

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